On-page and Technical SEO with Daniel Cuttridge

On-page and Technical SEO

Next up on the podcast was Daniel Cuttridge and we had a chat about on-page SEO and Technical SEO, Daniel comes from a web development background so it is no surprise that he is into the technical side of SEO, that comes naturally to him. I’ve yet to meet Daniel as he is always too busy to attend conferences, but I know many people he has worked with and saw many of his tutorials and articles being posted online and he is one who knows what he’s doing.

He runs his own Facebook group and has dabbled in a few different online ventures, so although he’s a young chap he has a fair bit of knowledge and experience behind him, and if the truth be told many SEO‘s out there don’t come close to having the coding ability to be able to do this type of work properly and do any testing work. If you are anything like me, I have someone do that for me as my coding ability and technical knowledge are not as good as someone who knows this stuff inside out.

So in this episode, we find out a bit more about Daniel, how he got started, how he generates leads and see if he has any decent knowledge bombs he can share with us.

Transcribed version

Speaker 1: (00:01)
So to these guests on the podcast is messed up. Daniel Cuttridge. I’m sure many of you will know of Daniel from online somewhere and whether that be from years ago or the black hat forums too.  Welcome Daniel. Thank you very much for coming on.

Speaker 2: (00:23)
Hi. Thanks for having me. It’s good to finally talk properly and you know, I’ve been watching your podcast and, and seeing it grow and everything and I’ve just been like, I really want to get on there and talk to Craig.

Speaker 1: (00:38)
Uh, it’s good to be podcast in his, he’s going quite nicely and a Titan. Just get the AVL, stranger people on Neil talking about different things. And obviously you are probably the most technical guy we’ve had on the, I would see, eh. So, um, yeah, you’re obviously massive on the technical front aim and obviously your group, um, is obese that owned on page and everything else or fussed. Before we go into anything, um, do you want me to just tell the audience about, about yourself and your background? How long have you been doing SEO for?

Speaker 2: (01:17)
Um, I started SEO in sort of 2012, but before that I’d kind of been doing it as a upsell to web design and, um, it was very much the case that when things started to get like, you know, FIM forest and all of those things were getting big. A lot of the web design work was drawing up and at the time I didn’t really know a lot about marketing until, um, I wasn’t the most savvy in that kind of regard. And I just got overtook by people who, you know, adapted and survived and kind of saw those changes coming. Whereas I was kind of, I went from earning like a lot of money just doing web design and a lot of the times it was um, like adapting people’s websites that were already there and making them responsive when that kind of change happened in sort of like 2008 and everything.

Speaker 2: (02:07)
And uh, you know, it kind of got to that point where it was like, I’m making loads of money and are making barely any money. And it was like, I’m actually making more money and, and enjoying the SEO more now. And so I just transitioned quite naturally into that. And um, I still build on my own websites today, but I don’t actually do any web design for anyone else anymore. Um, but you know, that’s, that’s basically it. And that’s how I probably got known for technical and on pages just because I come from that background at building websites.

Speaker 1: (02:40)
Yeah. It’s one of the things when I was learning the mass you want stuff. I always wanted to become really good at web design as well. I just couldn’t get it. Yeah. Skelding cord and have absolute dog Shaya graphics and everything as well. And a just had more real key if thing. But I think for yourself and you know, being able to rule state so and not do it for other people must be headed even in, I’ve got to source that clap all the team and obviously you never know who the hell you’re hired and no, it’s very true. And obviously people that you know what you can and can’t get away with. If a gay comes up to me and says, well this is the place and you always feel a bloaty cord or whatever, you know, really realistically, I wouldn’t know. Yeah. I just don’t know enough about it or um, but say a good skill to have.

Speaker 1: (03:35)
And I think obviously making that transition a is is a, is a good thing. I think it was staying in long term a stay does a C I’m just jealous I couldn’t do it. Yes. It’s one of those things which are like that both, um, as topics like SEO and web design, they’re quite kind of married together in the sense that if you’re doing something for, you know, the way that you’re building out your site, you’re probably going to be affecting your SEO as well. And so I think a lot of people in SEO really do like the web design stuff, but obviously a lot of the time it’s way more profitable to be focusing on actually running and building the sites. Yeah. It say, I mean for me, I just think web design is, it’s one of those things, as a guy who doesn’t do it, it’s very hard to please because it’s just opinion based and all that is real.

Speaker 1: (04:28)
And I think a, you know, when you’ve got clients and they’re doing it for clients, it’s just one of those things where you can be opening yourself up to him within, which is a pain in the ass. But you see, you don’t do it for, for clients at all. I take it you did do your own stuff. No, you don’t do any kind of client work. Yeah. I don’t do any client work per se. I mean I launched a kind of audit service earlier this year. Um, and obviously, you know, a lot of people would kind of see that as client work by C is more like customer focused. Um, you know, they order an audit, we do it, do the customer service and everything, and then that’s, you know, our relationship with them as effectively over, unless they come back to us in future and have anything else to add or any questions.

Speaker 1: (05:13)
But, um, I way prefer that now to kind climb work and stuff, which is something I’ve done in the past. Yeah. So with the, the audit say either things, what, what happens the other, someone just come to UNC lesson, I think there’s a problem here. Can your detect the, do you actually offer to fix those? Are you basically just seeing this is brought, that’s brought, this is what needs fixed and made me think more and get that on the developer to do that. Yeah, we’re mainly focused on the analysis side of things because we want to in the future work on doing more different types of audits that are all focused on analysis. But we’ve got some good relationships with like developers and stuff that if people don’t have a developer we just kind of refer them to them, they’re going to rip them off

Speaker 2: (05:58)
or anything like that. So that works out quite well. But a lot of the customers that we do have, um, tend to be the kind of companies that already have a developer or a developer team, um, in place as well. So that usually works out quite well. But you know, when we get an inquiry and it’s from someone who might be more of a solo, preneur type, um, set up, we just kind of usually say, you know, some of these, uh, implementations are going to be difficult if you don’t have a developer, so we can help you there. But if you don’t have the budget for the audit and a developer at this time, then maybe this isn’t for you right now. So we are really focused on only really working with people that we think we can help. Um, which is, you know, one of the reasons why we don’t just like allow people to just order on the site, um, which is something a lot of people have been like, Oh, I wish I could just order on your website. But it’s like, then we can look at your website and see if this would actually give you an ROI. So, um, we do take all of those things into account for sure.

Speaker 1: (07:01)
Good. And is that something you are, if you’ve got your own team or are you sourcing, you know, what is your set up like near that? If you’ve got staff or does everything, like all your team can have remote, what goes on, stuff like that.

Speaker 2: (07:15)
It’s just me and one of the parks and at the moment honestly, um, I went down that route of kind of thinking should I, um, make these processes really systemized and hire a remote team or should I try and automate as much as I can and then have one person who’s like, I’m training up to be hopefully one day as good as I am at spotting these issues. Um, so it’s kind of like at the moment I’ll do a bit of the manual auditing. They’ll do a bit of the manual auditing and then we have automations in place. We have a few of our own tools. We will see use other big tools like, um, SCM rush, cite bulb, all of those ones.

Speaker 1: (07:55)
I think it’s C it’s good to hear that I can, a young person’s perspective. Every young guy I talk to that say [inaudible] has no real intention to scaling up a real team. [inaudible] which is obviously, I think it’s, thank you. Do you know [inaudible] just curious to get your input on that aim saw. Obviously you don’t aim or I’ve not bumped into you in person yet. Um, I just see you on lean and a, an Vitis group chats and stuff like that. You don’t really go to the conferences and stuff much, do you?

Speaker 2: (08:29)
No, I’ve never been to one actually. I mean the only, I’ve only ever met like a handful of other SEOs in person and I’ve just never gone to the conferences because, um, I’m a bit of a workaholic really. And I’m always like, can I, I’ve got all these things on my to do list and I’d rather just stay at home and keep doing them. Um, and it’s probably something that’s been, you know, a bit to my own detriment over the years cause I, I’ve noticed that especially this year, I’ve been finding excuses not to go, um, just probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. But um, yeah, I’ve traditionally not gone just cause I’ve wanted to just crack on, I think in saintly for the league to yourself. Obviously you’re speaking to all these guys anyway, but just to go, never be your Westville men. Yeah.

Speaker 2: (09:17)
A Gates and all them. I be at an, obviously some of this stuff you pick up is in seeing me just hear the gay talk and shit and he’s don’t go and do that and you’re like, fuck yeah, I, but um, I think also in terms of what can get in your knee movie and stuff and obviously helps with that, but how art plays in getting your, can a lead Zen for audits and stuff, is that just to do the Facebook groups in a stuff like that or how else are you promoting it? The main way that we get leads for audits is actually, um, word of mouth. I, before I launched the website in September, um, we’d actually been doing, or I, it was solely me up until that point. I’d been doing audits, um, full time, almost since November of last year. And that kind of all started around sort of Chang my conference.

Speaker 2: (10:13)
Um, which obviously I didn’t attend that year, but just a few people was over there and they, you know, said, you know, help Dan if you want an audit sort of thing. And I had loads of inquiries and I was like, Holy shit, this side hustle type thing has made me like a lot of money. And I was like, maybe I should actually think about how I can scale this. And so it’s been mainly word of mouth and referrals. Um, more recently a lot of the content that we’ve been putting on the blog there has been getting quite a few leads and surprising the, the Facebook group isn’t really a place that we get a lot of, um, a lot of audit customers from. And it’s not just because I don’t promote it though because I have done, um, I don’t obviously shove it down people’s throat like 24, seven, but at the same time, I think it’s just our kind of positioning and, and the kind of audience in my group, which is predominantly affiliate SEOs, um, doesn’t quite match up.

Speaker 2: (11:12)
And maybe, you know, for some reason that just doesn’t work. But it was always very much a case in my head that I wanted to have. The group has kind of one set proofing and PAF torches and another thing. And I just am one of these people that, you know, over the years, one of, uh, people’s criticisms of me was you do so much. And like I said, it’s mainly because I’m a workaholic, so not, it’s not a bad thing in I suppose, but a some things you need to take about a team off. Yeah, for sure. But aim. So before all of us, you used to what for mr the infamous Mr. Charles floor, is that right?

Speaker 2: (11:54)
Yeah, we were basically, I freelanced for years when I first got into SEO and kind of moved into that from web design. And I met Charles because I was ranking for, um, SEO UK and a bunch of like County times in the UK. And he kind of reached out to me and just said, like, how are you doing this? Um, so we got talking and I actually knew about him because of his God of SEO blog at the time. Um, and he, he had me do a couple of, uh, I suppose like ghostwritten blog posts for him. And I even helped him with one of his like fast eBooks he does as well. And uh, that’s how we kind of became friends. And then after I’d kind of stopped freelancing and I was just doing affiliate, um, SEO and nothing else, he kind of came to me in 2016 and said, I’m starting a e-commerce SEO agency, would you like to do it with me? Um, and so it was kind of like a 50, 50 split and we did that for like the best part of two years, um, until I sold my shares back to him in may last year. And, uh, that was, you know, it was a big change for me. Um, working in that kind of agency, kind of set up working with other SEOs that have strong ideas of their own and things like that. It was very eyeopening experience.

Speaker 1: (13:17)
I opened it now he’s a character chattels aim and the beat guy to learn from is whales super on the ball and a yeah, I’m sure you probably picked up but it’s in bulbs from each other and Jude and that team. Um, but yeah, just wanted to get that out there. He gets a lot of bad place. But um, but he’s a great guy. He ain’t got a lot of team Fordham and in Gillete T he or someone else uses a knowledge and stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 2: (13:51)
Yeah. We had a lot of fun. It was, it was good fun to, um, work on those projects together because Charles is one of those people I think that he’ll, he’ll like when he gets into work mode, he can work for sometimes like 12 hours at a time. And so sometimes we were literally like building out sites even just for fun, um, and like dominating our competition. And I think we actually sold one of our affiliate sites that we built together and literally like we did it in like three months

Speaker 1: (14:20)
was just because we work. Yeah. Could easy, easy stuff, aim. I can imagine that. Be Mickey is just going for it and getting obsessed with it and yeah, yeah. It say certainly as a CA gay to be a thing to have. I just don’t have that constancy and label to be set and doing that kind of stuff. But yeah, sure. But another thing that obviously I’ve seen from our afar, aim with yourself as you’re quite [inaudible] on Lake, which is a something, I used to do a lot of a CR quiet and, and don’t sleep, you know, a, but I think the industry lacks a lot of people who are prepared to see what they think and call it bullshit and stuff like that. So I think it’s quite a good thing to do. But how, how have you found that when you wear those spoke in, you know, every T every weird. I looked, I was like, Oh shit. And he goes again, um, [inaudible] someone said to you like Rena N or do you just, is that just that kind of beginner’s thing? Cause I think I was very volatile at the start. I mean, [inaudible] saved me to say calm down, calm down, don’t waste your money on it.

Speaker 2: (15:38)
Yeah, I think it was a little bit that, and actually even sort of talking with you, like one of the things I kind of was always like, I’m very passionate about what it is that I do and because I’m quite serious about it as well is like I co kind of, if someone’s seeing something and I don’t agree with it, then I have to see what I think. And you know, quite often, um, in SEO or any industry really that upsets people when you disagree with them and then they will kind of highly insults at you. And, and quite often I wasn’t so much for an insults back at people, but I would stand my ground sort of thing and that caused a lot of problems. But I think that the reason why I stopped, um, getting involved in it so much is just because it didn’t feel very productive in the end.

Speaker 2: (16:28)
It was like, I don’t think I’m actually helping these people. Um, and it’s like all it does is kind of make my day worse. Um, and so I just kind of backed off from those particular places and those particular groups, um, and just focus more on my own one where most of the people are quite, you know, just there to just discuss things that there’s not so many arguments going on. Um, but yeah, help you, helping me out with that and saying sort of thing. Um, you know, this is just the way that it can kind of get and, and, you know, don’t take it to pass. And Lee, that really helped me out a lot because it was, this year has really been the first sort of year that I’ve put my work out there in the public high sort of thing. And it has kind of devolved into this place where people were either deliberately trying to bait me into an argument or, um, it just sort of happened naturally because of discussions.

Speaker 1: (17:26)
Yeah. It’s not fun. And, uh, as I’ve said to you, say counterproductive and you know, wasted. There’s always going to be someone not done a Twitter chat yesterday and people would ask him, he can have black cat questions, which I’m fine to, to talk about. And a, and someone was like, yeah, but surely Google should, you know, put laws up us. And then the gay

Speaker 2: (17:49)
started tagging Google and stuff and yeah, what the fuck the people, it’ll just take me to do that stuff. It’s crazy. But I think let’s just, people that you love get nothing barely do with our team then it’s all forking and Rob people up their own weird. But is as soon as you can start laughing it and Nautique it as our [inaudible] and salt to yourself because it happens to, they go out and be, other than the nose gaze, aim if you wouldn’t get sits or when you’re looking at it like that, it’s just, so we, people are, but you’re group a, I’m not a fan of Facebook groups for that [inaudible] and we’d always find myself in the beat and arguments. But your group seems to be, I’m a part of your group. I don’t really participate a much just because it’s a pain in the ass when people start being honed in you.

Speaker 2: (18:35)
But yeah, your grip looks to have been a success and constantly get on and everything like that. Do you feel that Facebook groups are a good source to share them and stuff like that? Because obviously you’ve said [inaudible] those other groups. So we are, we are, you do get the arguments in the debate and materials and do you feel managing your [inaudible] is actually worth it because obviously there’s a lot of time and effort going into managing groups in your barn and people in a proven people in whatever else. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think the, one of the things I think about Facebook groups is that they can work really well, but the thing is you have to be really on the ball with managing them. And obviously that takes up even more time. Um, but you also have to know the kind of like inherent kind of weaknesses of them.

Speaker 2: (19:28)
And I think it’s just because it’s Facebook, you know, you have the feed. If you’re trying to share something with people, like a piece of information, um, that’s just gonna roll off of the feed and it’s gonna be really hard to get people back to that. So one of the things that I did is I just started, rather than sharing that information on the group, I’d put it on my medium blog and then post that on the group. And that seemed to work really well. And I think that’s one of the reasons that the group has done quite well is because even though the value isn’t always directly on the group page, I was always providing value on there. Um, and that helped it grow over seeks people would share it and things like that. But at the same time, it’s definitely been worth it because even though I haven’t monetized my group, um, and I don’t get like a huge amount of audits or anything like that for it, I feel like if it wasn’t for the fact that I have people who are interested in what I say, um, then I wouldn’t have any kind of a voice at all in SEO right now.

Speaker 2: (20:27)
And you know, I probably wouldn’t be able to be doing all these cool things like being on the podcast here and, and being, you know, doing guest posts. I’ve done, you know, really big gas posts for like drift and, um, so for SEO and all of those guys, um, and I think that a lot of that has come about because of the group and people can see that I’m putting value out there and people are liking it. So they’re willing to give you that chance.

Speaker 1: (20:51)
Yeah, no, I think obviously the Pasek shouldn’t, um, you know, of the industry as you, you are a super smart technical guy in, you’re just, that gave it no one’s net. So I think you learn that thing by demonstrating your knowledge. And I think you always have to go to events personally. You know, you can do guest blog posts by the use podcasts and everything else a saw you, but one way and another you have to get yourself out. But goodbye to your specific skill set and audits and technical and everything else. You know, I know you’re a, I actually the conversation with a guy yesterday and eh, we’ll, we’ll talk about NTM, the links on the, the guy he was casual actually that worked for Dooley. Anyway, I don’t see that in front of that new cottage. You go off his head and it wasn’t that I was dismissing NTM the links as such.

Speaker 1: (21:51)
And I get that important and stuff like that. Mark McComas season we casual was, I see some PGS that right. Really where all that and some websites in general that just have a real clappy and Tiana Lincoln structure. So I was talking about how much we as pastor, a lot of these cannot own peach things. So we are for you in your opinion and obviously you’ve tasted and everything else that you do, what are the strongest on page elements that actually move the needle because there’s so many things that we can less than obviously the very minuscule, but what for you is what can really weigh?

Speaker 2: (22:29)
Um, I think the things that are working most right now is actually really quite simple. And I guess it comes back to all of this talk of, you know, like the [inaudible] principle is like 80, 20. All of that stuff is, you know, when I analyze soaps and stuff like that, I’m kind of looking for anything that I can kind of easily extract from that webpage to get an idea and start coming up with correlations and then, you know, build a hypothesis off of that. And it’s usually, you know, your page title, your H one, um, and then your URL usually in that order, those three things, if you can get them right, then you’re going to win probably 80% of the relevance bowel and right away. I do think that from my own testing and stuff that adding in important terms can be really important.

Speaker 2: (23:20)
And, and not just adding in times that maybe you’re missing but actually getting the right number, which is why, you know, I’ve done stuff and talked about why are you sorry for SEO and things like that. Um, and then lastly, I do think in tunnel links probably are in that, in that mix as well. And I think one of the things that people mess with internal links is we do a lot of analysis on our backlinks, but a lot of people, the fact that if you can just go in there and literally like reverse engineer your competitor’s internal links, um, then you’re going to be in a pretty good place too. Because I remember thinking before I ever did this sort of stuff, I used to think, well maybe they’ve got three or four internal links going to that blog post. And then I put it in a traps or something like that to see what internal links they have.

Speaker 2: (24:07)
And they’d have like 20 or 30. And that was a really big moment for me. Um, in thinking, you know, what my supporting content, I’m not doing enough. Um, and starting to double that, um, and doing sometimes, you know, I’ve said in my group before, I try my best to make sure every page has at least five. And I tried to make sure that on a max or event for the sort of hundred, 250 page sites that I have, um, the, I get like 15 per post, uh, sort of higher end and that’s made a really big difference. Um, and other than that, I think that sometimes more important than the kind of internal link number is sometimes just the anchor text that you’re using for those internal links. Um, I think a lot of people get that wrong and not just because they’re being too conservative, but they tend to think of a website like in terms of I’m optimizing my website for keywords which are on Google.

Speaker 2: (25:07)
So it’s very much, I’m optimizing this for Google. But a lot of the time you need to think of your website as kind of a its own thing. And you want to optimize that within your own site. And lots of people over the last year or two have been talking about this, but it’s one thing that I keep saying to people is things not strings. And you know, like if I’m using a more broad, um, anchor on one of my internal links, people might go, Oh, but how do they know what you’re talking about? But it’s because they understand your website as a whole. You can afford to be kind of a bit broader on a lot of your internal anchor. And, uh, that’s something that’s really helped as well. So I do think internal links are a massive, um, part of the equation, but you can definitely, uh, not do it perfectly and still rank really well.

Speaker 1: (25:55)
Yeah. That, I mean, that was only the, it’d be obvious Harvard in someone’s like, Whoa. And, but yeah, you see so many websites, so you know that Harvard can poor and TNL Lincoln structure in stow got away with it. But as I see, you want the tech as many boxes as you can and do the eight things and it’s encased in that you see 15 [inaudible] peer posts that say probably a good bet more than I would personally do. And, but I’m not an internal Lincoln guru by any stretch of the imagination. Probably have a fairly weak internal in construction across all my seats or something. I will have to aim, look into and consider going forward. But you mentioned software ACO and obviously, um, I, I’ve walked through the gaze a bit trying to promote the tool and how the good look at it and everything else and I’m hearing a lot of good stuff. People in Shang may go, nah, it’s amazing. Um, yeah, they’re really getting on the Mo. You’ll know. You saw, um, what are the main differences from Sofar and your opinion then the lakes or PLP and know VT Southern on pitch tools?

Speaker 2: (27:08)
I think I’m like most people in the sense that the thing that first kind of drew me in was that Safa just had a much nicer kind of user experience and a lot of people have said that. But over time as I was like using the tool, I was starting to notice that there were just things about it that were maybe a little bit more accurate, um, in terms of what I believed. And then I actually got round to talking to them and they said, yeah, we don’t do this because this isn’t right. And, uh, one of the things that they obviously did, um, a little while back was coming out with like true density and stuff like that rather than maybe doing something more with like TF IDF, which is something that I personally don’t use. Um, and so it really came down to them being like, they’re kind of trying to be like thought leaders and they’re leading from the front and that that was enough to win me over personally. But, um, I just stick with them now because I think that they’re still kind of, um, the number one company in that area. But also I just, I really just loved the guys there. So

Speaker 1: (28:16)
yeah, though they can it gays and as I see, I think they’re doing a great job. And that was the interface that actually entrusted me. I was a fan of pop for the way you yeah, obviously the interface wasn’t quite as nice as him, but haven’t seen that. I was like, geez, you know, that has really quite a, you know, especially if you’re doing client what cabinet really do claim what. But you know, if you had to show a client something, you’ll just be able to take screen shots and that kind of stuff. And so you look at this, look at that, we need to fix this. It just makes it a lot easier to understand. But it’s, you see the big guys as well and constantly, constantly looking for ways to develop and build themselves saw and yeah, it’s good to see them. They getting a better recognition.

Speaker 1: (29:04)
I think they’ve done really well in a Chiang Mai and loads of people are saying you’re not too at the stuff. So you then get about more exposure as a study. Any kind of other tools that someone that you would use that maybe as an as well more publicly. Um, you know, I know you’re going to, you know, you, when you’re doing your audits and you know, your on page stuff, you’re using the same Ruskin and frog sate Bobe and then if names, but is there any other like golden nugget that no one’s really helped off that you’re using it the moment that you could maybe share with his? Um,

Speaker 2: (29:42)
I suppose one of the main things that I really like using and I’ve actually gone down the route of, um, paying for the, for the kind of usage of it and developing an API and T sheets for it. But, um, the Google kind of NLP stuff that they have has been really helpful for me. Um, and I even did that on my mailing list a little while ago. Um, I kind of did like a five tips, five days series on there and the first one was, you know, optimize your categories with Google NLP and they have like a free demo that allows anyone to just go on there and paste in like a couple of sentences of text and then they’ll classify that text, they’ll tell you what entities it’s associated with and all of those things. And obviously when you’re dealing with like category pages or even if you are dealing with, you know, you want to optimize the first sentence underneath one of your headings on your site, um, you can use that tool over and over and over again to just make sure that the text is like laser accurate. And, uh, that is one that I don’t think people are using enough because everyone on my group was like amazed by that tip, which I just, I didn’t even think that it was going to be, um, you know, that much of a, a thing, but people loved it. So I think that’s one thing that people can do

Speaker 1: (31:07)
it same. I actually seen it for one of the foster teams in the other week. I was doing a away, but Albert Ross happened and he pulled out the aim and it looked like a geek too. And I think it’s also relatively cheap. I think he said he walked you through a website that had something that was 300,000 PGS and a it cost about a hundred quits or 120 quids to get bikes. What was cheap in the grand scheme of things in which actually quite a cool tool as well. And um, yeah, no it’s definitely one worth having a look up Amy.

Speaker 2: (31:43)
Yeah, definitely. I think it is really cheap. And the thing is is the difficulty of going from like the demo that they give you to the paid version is just you need to have that develop a kind of background. So I think that if you’re the sole person that’s like running a big SEO team or has your own agency or has your own set of affiliate sites that if you just pay someone for that developer time to set it all up for you and like even in Google sheets, you can put it in there, paste in where your euros on your site and then it’s going to classify those URLs if you’re using the right API calls. And uh, that will really, I think that will put you ahead of a good percentage of SEOs in terms of really getting on top of like content analysis and everything like that.

Speaker 1: (32:27)
So for our general and Gail at me who has no developer background and is absolutely Shah all that stuff, if I wanted to use that too and I, you know, went to Upwork or whatever, what we’re talking about, the, I would half the P to get that meets a couple of hundred bucks or a couple hundred. Really. Um, it’s one of those things where you think, because it’s so, you know, it seems so complicated that it’s going to be something that would cost a lot of money, but a lot of these developers and stuff on Upwork and sites like that, um, they genuinely, it seems so easy to them that they don’t even think to charge based on the value that they’re providing. They’re just charging you based on their hourly a lot of the time. Yeah. I think I’ve fed the law of different bets and Bob’s needs, um, from um, up what can, yes, soul was a couple of hundred bucks tops.

Speaker 1: (33:17)
I think it need for videos, bits and bobs. Spurty definitely a good way to see if you’re looking to get something like that me, then you’ll add it to part of your overall on page process. Definitely worth looking at. But thank you Daniel that we are [inaudible] but thank you very much for coming on. If anyone wants to shoot you up for an audit or just contact you in general, where’s the base police detained G um, they can go to PAF torch.com. Um, that’s for the audits and everything. And if you just want to get in touch with me personally about something personal than Daniel, cartridge.com and head to the contact page on there. Perfect. So appreciate your team again and aim. I’m sure it’ll get you in in the future as well. And we’ll talk about something different. Yeah. Brilliant. Thank you for having me. Cheers.

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Craig Campbell

I am a Glasgow based SEO expert who has been doing SEO for 18 years.

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